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[K171.39] beyond the Veil, in Wanderhold
Sep. 29th, 2009 10:10 pm1827 told us it was time to move on from the wall, saying to watch the hold. There was a hold in the floor going down to a chamber below. Jack was curious about it, but that was not where we were going. Instead, we went down a corridor that still had lots of moving symbols all over, all hard and slidy on the surface. There was a sense of flying, because of the sense of depth the symbols gave.
There were four green nodes in the wall, breaking the surface effect; the other half of the hemispheres were not visible inside the walls, and the symbols moved behind them. They glowed more brightly in a friendly way when we got closer and 1827 shined rainbow light, as if it were using Astar magic towards them. Tiny nodes of light came out of them to 1827, then went back to the green hemispheres. Jack asked if it were a Deminc communications system, and 1827 said that the word wasn't right, but it was about that.
A vortex formed between the green nodes, and a door opened to a huge chamber inside, larger than I'd've expected, given the ring thickness. Inside there were many shapes moving around. Some had fur, or limbs, but none were whole beings, just parts, or compliations of parts. Some were baffled-looking humanoids. 1827 said that this was the crafting chamber, and led us in. We hollowed into a circular room, with a dome of green glass above. It looked like there was a cloudy, wind-swept sky above. On the left, there was a kathel sitting on the ground, working on something with its hands. It had eyes that were yellow with black flecks, and fur that was gray with touches of black. There were flashes of blue and green light as the kathel worked.
May touched one creature, and said it was like a fur-covered jelly mass, having an ebb and flow of life, but not quite alive.
The kathel was very focused, ignoring us. We saw something like a sheep with very large eyes and paws instead of hooves. It was very cute, and May and Jack went to pet it, but the kathel said they shouldn't. Why? It would likely disintegrate them. Something happened to what it had worked, and it's cute and had the power to disintegrate. The kathel said it was trying to do it right, to make it cute, but without the power to disintegrate.
The kathel asked why we were here today. Jack said we were there to get clean, then see Vosh.
The kathel said something about incarnations, and when I asked, said that we all had incarnations. The kathel asked whwere we were from, and Cor said that he was from Bionlear's Skull, telling about the sull that had been in the town, and the claw and arm of the bionlear, and the rainbows, and the Orem.
The kathel said that we were from a more primal root, given us two Elix in the party.
It turns out that this kathel is Boann, child of Benash Vosh, ruler of the city; she is a second generation kathel. May asked about how kathel make children, and Boann said that second generation kathel stay to one side or the other, but first generation kathel could be fluid, to the extent of having children with only one parent.
She asked what state we'd like to be in when seeing Vosh, clean and presentable. Then she asked if she could see May. She took May in her hand, and examined her, saying that each time she saw that design, she was fascinated by the craft. Apparently Ovahon are interesting to one who creates.
May said something about using a blessing to help Boann learn to create better, which amused her. Apparently kathel can't be touched by gods or their blessings.
Thymelixsen asked if kafke are related to kathel, and she said that we are kathel without the gifts of the kathel, because we chose the root. We are derivative of our accursedness, early in the primal root. Jack asked if katke can die, and she said that it depends on the root source. Thymelixsen asked if it's possible we're from the first root, and she said it was possible. Vosh would know, but might not answer.
Tussef is one of the first generation kathel, like Vosh. A third generation kathel is the one that Cor cut the arm off of. There are fourth generation kathel, but no fifth generation ones. Thymliexsen asked if there will be a fifth generation, and she said that the pull suggested not. Thymelixsen asked whether that was because of the rainbows, and she said that either the All is cracked, so there is no need for a fifth generation, or we all fall into the All. She also pointed out that there's no word for them, since having a word for them draws them in more. It makes them more able to be here, and makes use see them, though it also makes them more like us.
She said that the war has happened and has ended. She remembers it happening one way, but doesn't like how it turned out, so says that there are two possibilities.
Thymelixsen asked why Vosh gathers memories of the roots. She said that knowing the roots is a way to have the roots there. He can see all of what we are and have been and will be and put it here.
Thymelixsen also brought up the question of clean thread for us, about how we could do something for her to earn thread. She said that we would not want thread that she made; she has not enough of the craft. First generation kathel are the ones to earn thread from, and there are four in the city.
However, she can restore us to clean and presentable, using our memory of how we would be, using the lines of order and how we should be. Jack or I said something about the infestation I'd sensed in him again, and she asked to look. She looked at my memory, a wash of stuff, and said that it was easy. She held Jack, examining him, and said that there was a structure in him for reentry, noting that he, too, was a blessed. Thymelixsen asked whether it was his framework or someone else's, and she said that there were subtle hints of frames of the Mother of control on Jack. She held Jack out to Thymelixsen to look. He sensed magic while she watched him do it, saying that that was why he hadn't seen them: Thymelixsen's fram structures were dirty, and left debris. She reached out and did something, presumably to the frame, but whatever she did, he couldn't seem to follow.
In the end, she scooped through Jack, scooping things out, which made him feel better, but didn't see the spirit I'd mentioned.
Boann said that she has the edge available all the time.
Jack asked about time here vs. in the roots. A root grows. It starts at one point, getting thicker and heavier, then having branching possibilities. The start and end of the root are existence. Some say the time to the end of the fourth generation gets farther away, stretching out, not just thicker. Here has its own way, separate from the roots.
Jack said that perhaps here ended in a way people didn't like (the war), but if the root lasts long enough, it might end differently. Boann thought this clever. She said that here only grows because people come here with growth. The Ult and the Orem came here when they discovered the edge of the roots. Some have gotten stuck elsewhere, or opened doors accidentally into the All.
The Ults are of the first to come here by choice, and Boann said that the Ults were wise, experience in the ways of the roots. They see themselves as keepers of the roots, and exert their will in certain things. Jack asked whether this involved the Mother of control, but Boann said they wouldn't know that. There are different makers in different roots, and in some roots they are unseen.
The roots grow out of the first creation. Cor asked what the first creation was, and she said it was made by the creators for the first creations, the first generation kathel. And now here is decimated, the dirt used for the roots to grow from here.
We asked about the bionlear, and she said the bionlear is separate from all, and always has been, though it didn't cause the creators. The bionlera was how it was, and it was beyond Boann's understanding.
The kathel were not allowed to stay in the roots, for crimes against the creators done by the first generation; the choice was to either be here or go over the edge.
Jack asked why there was a wall of fire at the edge of the world, and she said that there isn't. It's all a trick of the mind, like the tricks you play on yourself to keep everything from happening at once.
And then it was time to remember what were were like when we were clean, and the things we were wearing were clean too. She started with Jack, and said that he had odd perceptions, but she could work with it. And then not only was he clean, but his things were back to new. Wow. And so for the rest of us.
We asked if we'd see her again, and she said maybe. A second time? Maybe. (I assume sometimes there is just one encounter, and other times there are multiple visits). She did say that this was the most touched by the gods she'd seen the party. I asked if she saw us with Ruzagride, and she said yes, sometimes. Sometimes with both May and Mirashan, even.
We went to 1827, and said that we were ready to see Vosh. Some lights came out of his head, and then he said that Vosh would see us now.
And then we were pulled up into the blue.
There was a golden-haired kathel, who had the same kind of impact as Tussef, that apparently all first generation kathel have. Nearby, there were some yhellow triangles with a blue field around them. They were all flat, sometimes rotating out of the field. They seemed to be servants, floating around. There were also golden shaped lights, similar to the symbols, at which he'd point an ear or a finger and they'd move.
We were all weeping from overwhelming joy, wanting to fall into his light, but we were all held still, held in safety and comfort. And we'd be content to stay here in his presence.
Vosh touched some symbols, and said he knew we were here. He was tired of answering questions, but would do so anyway, because we need it.
Jack asked if he would eat us, and he said no, he'd recently eaten. Jack asked if he'd heaten us other times, and he said yes, but not this time.
Thymelixsen asked about making us (Elix, I assume) kathel, and Vosh said he couldn't break our previous choice for the roots (for which I am glad; I want home more and the connection to the Healer more than I want kathel abilities, now, anyway). Thymelixsen asked if it were possible that we were from the first root, and Vosh said that we were from an early root, yes. He picked Thymelixsen up and smelled him, saying that our world has many aspects of the first world, so perhaps. The first world is shattered, and now the roots grow from it.
May asked about how to get thread, saying we'd like to do stuff for Vosh.
Jack mentioned Tussef, and Vosh had a moment of silence, perhaps sadness, that passed through us all. Vosh told us to approach.
He said that we (Thymelixsen and I) had a tool for forgetting, the All-Wood, which was useful for forgetting this. I hadn't realized that that would have been another way to have avoided the Veil using the All-Wood.
If we work for Vosh, we'll restore our selves enough to survive the journey back.
Cor asked about the sense of down we'd had when we arrived. Vosh said that that was where the All waited for us. I said that then we saw what we expected to see. Vosh agreed. And underneath? There are ghosts, seeking thread, even momentary thread.
Thymelixsen asked about the forest, and Vosh said that the spiral wood is of here. There is no All-Wood, no forgetting. Something about travel through all layers of perception. Jack asked about how there could be the All-Shadow but not the All-Wood, and Vosh said that the spiral wood has its own layers. The whole wood turns in spirals, hence its name, the spiral wood.
Thymelixsen asked whether, if he learns more magic, he will be able to carry it back. Magic, yes, but essence, no.
Thyemlixsen mantioned the contract of arms, and Vosh looked at him again. This would not be a violation of that contract, and he said he might discover that he's not bound by that contract, and haven't been in some time. It is a trick layered on a trick on a piece of minor stuff. It's still on him, though the real reason for it is no longer there, and there are ways to break it.
Vosh asked if he read Arcoons, since the contract was crafted in Arcoons, and Thymelixsen would need to read them to be able to rework the contract. It's not the original intent, and therefore there's a curse.
Cor asked what the contract was for, and Vosh replied that it was a misunderstanding when the gods were away at the war, especially the god of trade and the mother of control, working together.
Thymelixsen asked if we'd need essence weaving to be able to travel back to the root, and Vosh said that it is more easily dealt with if at least some of the group know it, but no all need to.
Cor asked once we find the edge, and we get rid of the bits of the All (assuming we do, of course), what then? Then we can choose. If we choose to go back, we'll need to travel. All the roots have a tower, linking all the roots.
The Ults bring many things, and Vosh could trad our services to the Ults, so that we could earn thread enough. We talked about how the Ults might take us to the edge of another root, for us to do something there, based on our particular abilities.
Vosh said that there was a shell on the roots, keeping them from growing more. If the All shattered, there would be soil enough forever. Now, there's only the soil of the first creation.
Cor asked whether Vosh knew that the boulder wouldn't crack, and Vosh said that eventually all the roots will wither if the boulder dosen't crack, before the roots reach the limits of the soil. What he has seen is that the fourth generation kathel will try to go to the roots, and the roots will wither, and all will return to the All.
Vosh said that the kathel didn't want to choose. They tried to deal with them, and nearly killed the roots. So they were placed here, and are not what they once were. They cannot grow by the roots. The fourth generation kathel would likely make the same mistake were they to attain the roots, thinking themselves greater than others, and crushing the roots.
But can things be changed? Vosh sees the future as the same. Jack said that if people were bringing change here, could the future change? Vosh said no. What about edgewalkers, seeing different ends? More coming here brings the end sooner. However, Vosh still allows the choice of what to do, rather than just killing those who arrive, because they were given a choice by the Creators, and he wishes to pass this gift along, in the hope that it makes the All crack.
I asked whether the first creator came from the All, and Vosh said that maybe there was a spark, lightning, the fiery one, making a crack in the All, allowing soil and growth. And there was an idea in some stories that the All was seeking to be greater.
Did something create the All? There are stories, but we only know the Creators. First there was the bionlear and nothing, then there was the bionlear and the All.
Cor asked if we could add more thread than we are, and Vosh said that the extra potential would ripple through the root, doing unexpected things. If we go back less, we'd be missing parts of oursleves. If we go back more, there would be things previously undone now done.
Jack asked if Vosh knew what happened to the Orem in our root, and Vosh said that they had been destroyed. A piece of the All fell into the root through the opening they made (aha! the thing under the Featureless Plains is a piece of the All!). and it is slowly being consumed by creation.
I asked about the purifiers' war, and Vosh said that they were mostly drwan out into the All. Some purifiers were still here, having tied themselves off. I asked if we brought pruifiers back, would that be in the direction of breaking or helping the All, and Vosh said he'd never seen it in any future, that it hadn't ever been done. He said that those who were still here were angry, because they had to tie themselves off.
There was a question about whether the first creation would have fallen back into the All without the roots. Vosh wasn't sure, and said that in the other cities, the other rulers might know more, especially VessDest, the ruler of all of the kathel, since the rest of them were damaged in various battles, losing the parts of themselves that fight.
He warned us that as we get closer to the edge, we will see more iterations of ourselves, and some might try to take us over.
Vosh told us to go into the city, find a place to rest, and so on. We should contact the Ult, and 1827 would assist in communication with them. He warned us that the Ult have their own code; they are the oldest of the young, and have done many great things. If we risk the roots, they might secure our essence, rather than let it fall over the edge. And he said that in some iterations, we would be sotred away by the Ults, especially May (which surprised me, that it wasn't Jack).
Vosh said that the Runeshe is the ring, the library of roots. He asked if he could record us. in the library, warning that others could find us through this copy (other selves, and the All). I asked if only one of me might have said yes to his request, and he said yes; that might be why there was that sign I didn't want to learn more about on the wall...
Vosh said that frames warp here. And finding more of the self leads to the All. There are more choices as we get closer to the ege about who we are.
And in the end, when he asked who would add themselves to the library, all of us agreed, none of us wishing to deny him anything, though I know I don't want to look at other iterations already stored here.
There were four green nodes in the wall, breaking the surface effect; the other half of the hemispheres were not visible inside the walls, and the symbols moved behind them. They glowed more brightly in a friendly way when we got closer and 1827 shined rainbow light, as if it were using Astar magic towards them. Tiny nodes of light came out of them to 1827, then went back to the green hemispheres. Jack asked if it were a Deminc communications system, and 1827 said that the word wasn't right, but it was about that.
A vortex formed between the green nodes, and a door opened to a huge chamber inside, larger than I'd've expected, given the ring thickness. Inside there were many shapes moving around. Some had fur, or limbs, but none were whole beings, just parts, or compliations of parts. Some were baffled-looking humanoids. 1827 said that this was the crafting chamber, and led us in. We hollowed into a circular room, with a dome of green glass above. It looked like there was a cloudy, wind-swept sky above. On the left, there was a kathel sitting on the ground, working on something with its hands. It had eyes that were yellow with black flecks, and fur that was gray with touches of black. There were flashes of blue and green light as the kathel worked.
May touched one creature, and said it was like a fur-covered jelly mass, having an ebb and flow of life, but not quite alive.
The kathel was very focused, ignoring us. We saw something like a sheep with very large eyes and paws instead of hooves. It was very cute, and May and Jack went to pet it, but the kathel said they shouldn't. Why? It would likely disintegrate them. Something happened to what it had worked, and it's cute and had the power to disintegrate. The kathel said it was trying to do it right, to make it cute, but without the power to disintegrate.
The kathel asked why we were here today. Jack said we were there to get clean, then see Vosh.
The kathel said something about incarnations, and when I asked, said that we all had incarnations. The kathel asked whwere we were from, and Cor said that he was from Bionlear's Skull, telling about the sull that had been in the town, and the claw and arm of the bionlear, and the rainbows, and the Orem.
The kathel said that we were from a more primal root, given us two Elix in the party.
It turns out that this kathel is Boann, child of Benash Vosh, ruler of the city; she is a second generation kathel. May asked about how kathel make children, and Boann said that second generation kathel stay to one side or the other, but first generation kathel could be fluid, to the extent of having children with only one parent.
She asked what state we'd like to be in when seeing Vosh, clean and presentable. Then she asked if she could see May. She took May in her hand, and examined her, saying that each time she saw that design, she was fascinated by the craft. Apparently Ovahon are interesting to one who creates.
May said something about using a blessing to help Boann learn to create better, which amused her. Apparently kathel can't be touched by gods or their blessings.
Thymelixsen asked if kafke are related to kathel, and she said that we are kathel without the gifts of the kathel, because we chose the root. We are derivative of our accursedness, early in the primal root. Jack asked if katke can die, and she said that it depends on the root source. Thymelixsen asked if it's possible we're from the first root, and she said it was possible. Vosh would know, but might not answer.
Tussef is one of the first generation kathel, like Vosh. A third generation kathel is the one that Cor cut the arm off of. There are fourth generation kathel, but no fifth generation ones. Thymliexsen asked if there will be a fifth generation, and she said that the pull suggested not. Thymelixsen asked whether that was because of the rainbows, and she said that either the All is cracked, so there is no need for a fifth generation, or we all fall into the All. She also pointed out that there's no word for them, since having a word for them draws them in more. It makes them more able to be here, and makes use see them, though it also makes them more like us.
She said that the war has happened and has ended. She remembers it happening one way, but doesn't like how it turned out, so says that there are two possibilities.
Thymelixsen asked why Vosh gathers memories of the roots. She said that knowing the roots is a way to have the roots there. He can see all of what we are and have been and will be and put it here.
Thymelixsen also brought up the question of clean thread for us, about how we could do something for her to earn thread. She said that we would not want thread that she made; she has not enough of the craft. First generation kathel are the ones to earn thread from, and there are four in the city.
However, she can restore us to clean and presentable, using our memory of how we would be, using the lines of order and how we should be. Jack or I said something about the infestation I'd sensed in him again, and she asked to look. She looked at my memory, a wash of stuff, and said that it was easy. She held Jack, examining him, and said that there was a structure in him for reentry, noting that he, too, was a blessed. Thymelixsen asked whether it was his framework or someone else's, and she said that there were subtle hints of frames of the Mother of control on Jack. She held Jack out to Thymelixsen to look. He sensed magic while she watched him do it, saying that that was why he hadn't seen them: Thymelixsen's fram structures were dirty, and left debris. She reached out and did something, presumably to the frame, but whatever she did, he couldn't seem to follow.
In the end, she scooped through Jack, scooping things out, which made him feel better, but didn't see the spirit I'd mentioned.
Boann said that she has the edge available all the time.
Jack asked about time here vs. in the roots. A root grows. It starts at one point, getting thicker and heavier, then having branching possibilities. The start and end of the root are existence. Some say the time to the end of the fourth generation gets farther away, stretching out, not just thicker. Here has its own way, separate from the roots.
Jack said that perhaps here ended in a way people didn't like (the war), but if the root lasts long enough, it might end differently. Boann thought this clever. She said that here only grows because people come here with growth. The Ult and the Orem came here when they discovered the edge of the roots. Some have gotten stuck elsewhere, or opened doors accidentally into the All.
The Ults are of the first to come here by choice, and Boann said that the Ults were wise, experience in the ways of the roots. They see themselves as keepers of the roots, and exert their will in certain things. Jack asked whether this involved the Mother of control, but Boann said they wouldn't know that. There are different makers in different roots, and in some roots they are unseen.
The roots grow out of the first creation. Cor asked what the first creation was, and she said it was made by the creators for the first creations, the first generation kathel. And now here is decimated, the dirt used for the roots to grow from here.
We asked about the bionlear, and she said the bionlear is separate from all, and always has been, though it didn't cause the creators. The bionlera was how it was, and it was beyond Boann's understanding.
The kathel were not allowed to stay in the roots, for crimes against the creators done by the first generation; the choice was to either be here or go over the edge.
Jack asked why there was a wall of fire at the edge of the world, and she said that there isn't. It's all a trick of the mind, like the tricks you play on yourself to keep everything from happening at once.
And then it was time to remember what were were like when we were clean, and the things we were wearing were clean too. She started with Jack, and said that he had odd perceptions, but she could work with it. And then not only was he clean, but his things were back to new. Wow. And so for the rest of us.
We asked if we'd see her again, and she said maybe. A second time? Maybe. (I assume sometimes there is just one encounter, and other times there are multiple visits). She did say that this was the most touched by the gods she'd seen the party. I asked if she saw us with Ruzagride, and she said yes, sometimes. Sometimes with both May and Mirashan, even.
We went to 1827, and said that we were ready to see Vosh. Some lights came out of his head, and then he said that Vosh would see us now.
And then we were pulled up into the blue.
There was a golden-haired kathel, who had the same kind of impact as Tussef, that apparently all first generation kathel have. Nearby, there were some yhellow triangles with a blue field around them. They were all flat, sometimes rotating out of the field. They seemed to be servants, floating around. There were also golden shaped lights, similar to the symbols, at which he'd point an ear or a finger and they'd move.
We were all weeping from overwhelming joy, wanting to fall into his light, but we were all held still, held in safety and comfort. And we'd be content to stay here in his presence.
Vosh touched some symbols, and said he knew we were here. He was tired of answering questions, but would do so anyway, because we need it.
Jack asked if he would eat us, and he said no, he'd recently eaten. Jack asked if he'd heaten us other times, and he said yes, but not this time.
Thymelixsen asked about making us (Elix, I assume) kathel, and Vosh said he couldn't break our previous choice for the roots (for which I am glad; I want home more and the connection to the Healer more than I want kathel abilities, now, anyway). Thymelixsen asked if it were possible that we were from the first root, and Vosh said that we were from an early root, yes. He picked Thymelixsen up and smelled him, saying that our world has many aspects of the first world, so perhaps. The first world is shattered, and now the roots grow from it.
May asked about how to get thread, saying we'd like to do stuff for Vosh.
Jack mentioned Tussef, and Vosh had a moment of silence, perhaps sadness, that passed through us all. Vosh told us to approach.
He said that we (Thymelixsen and I) had a tool for forgetting, the All-Wood, which was useful for forgetting this. I hadn't realized that that would have been another way to have avoided the Veil using the All-Wood.
If we work for Vosh, we'll restore our selves enough to survive the journey back.
Cor asked about the sense of down we'd had when we arrived. Vosh said that that was where the All waited for us. I said that then we saw what we expected to see. Vosh agreed. And underneath? There are ghosts, seeking thread, even momentary thread.
Thymelixsen asked about the forest, and Vosh said that the spiral wood is of here. There is no All-Wood, no forgetting. Something about travel through all layers of perception. Jack asked about how there could be the All-Shadow but not the All-Wood, and Vosh said that the spiral wood has its own layers. The whole wood turns in spirals, hence its name, the spiral wood.
Thymelixsen asked whether, if he learns more magic, he will be able to carry it back. Magic, yes, but essence, no.
Thyemlixsen mantioned the contract of arms, and Vosh looked at him again. This would not be a violation of that contract, and he said he might discover that he's not bound by that contract, and haven't been in some time. It is a trick layered on a trick on a piece of minor stuff. It's still on him, though the real reason for it is no longer there, and there are ways to break it.
Vosh asked if he read Arcoons, since the contract was crafted in Arcoons, and Thymelixsen would need to read them to be able to rework the contract. It's not the original intent, and therefore there's a curse.
Cor asked what the contract was for, and Vosh replied that it was a misunderstanding when the gods were away at the war, especially the god of trade and the mother of control, working together.
Thymelixsen asked if we'd need essence weaving to be able to travel back to the root, and Vosh said that it is more easily dealt with if at least some of the group know it, but no all need to.
Cor asked once we find the edge, and we get rid of the bits of the All (assuming we do, of course), what then? Then we can choose. If we choose to go back, we'll need to travel. All the roots have a tower, linking all the roots.
The Ults bring many things, and Vosh could trad our services to the Ults, so that we could earn thread enough. We talked about how the Ults might take us to the edge of another root, for us to do something there, based on our particular abilities.
Vosh said that there was a shell on the roots, keeping them from growing more. If the All shattered, there would be soil enough forever. Now, there's only the soil of the first creation.
Cor asked whether Vosh knew that the boulder wouldn't crack, and Vosh said that eventually all the roots will wither if the boulder dosen't crack, before the roots reach the limits of the soil. What he has seen is that the fourth generation kathel will try to go to the roots, and the roots will wither, and all will return to the All.
Vosh said that the kathel didn't want to choose. They tried to deal with them, and nearly killed the roots. So they were placed here, and are not what they once were. They cannot grow by the roots. The fourth generation kathel would likely make the same mistake were they to attain the roots, thinking themselves greater than others, and crushing the roots.
But can things be changed? Vosh sees the future as the same. Jack said that if people were bringing change here, could the future change? Vosh said no. What about edgewalkers, seeing different ends? More coming here brings the end sooner. However, Vosh still allows the choice of what to do, rather than just killing those who arrive, because they were given a choice by the Creators, and he wishes to pass this gift along, in the hope that it makes the All crack.
I asked whether the first creator came from the All, and Vosh said that maybe there was a spark, lightning, the fiery one, making a crack in the All, allowing soil and growth. And there was an idea in some stories that the All was seeking to be greater.
Did something create the All? There are stories, but we only know the Creators. First there was the bionlear and nothing, then there was the bionlear and the All.
Cor asked if we could add more thread than we are, and Vosh said that the extra potential would ripple through the root, doing unexpected things. If we go back less, we'd be missing parts of oursleves. If we go back more, there would be things previously undone now done.
Jack asked if Vosh knew what happened to the Orem in our root, and Vosh said that they had been destroyed. A piece of the All fell into the root through the opening they made (aha! the thing under the Featureless Plains is a piece of the All!). and it is slowly being consumed by creation.
I asked about the purifiers' war, and Vosh said that they were mostly drwan out into the All. Some purifiers were still here, having tied themselves off. I asked if we brought pruifiers back, would that be in the direction of breaking or helping the All, and Vosh said he'd never seen it in any future, that it hadn't ever been done. He said that those who were still here were angry, because they had to tie themselves off.
There was a question about whether the first creation would have fallen back into the All without the roots. Vosh wasn't sure, and said that in the other cities, the other rulers might know more, especially VessDest, the ruler of all of the kathel, since the rest of them were damaged in various battles, losing the parts of themselves that fight.
He warned us that as we get closer to the edge, we will see more iterations of ourselves, and some might try to take us over.
Vosh told us to go into the city, find a place to rest, and so on. We should contact the Ult, and 1827 would assist in communication with them. He warned us that the Ult have their own code; they are the oldest of the young, and have done many great things. If we risk the roots, they might secure our essence, rather than let it fall over the edge. And he said that in some iterations, we would be sotred away by the Ults, especially May (which surprised me, that it wasn't Jack).
Vosh said that the Runeshe is the ring, the library of roots. He asked if he could record us. in the library, warning that others could find us through this copy (other selves, and the All). I asked if only one of me might have said yes to his request, and he said yes; that might be why there was that sign I didn't want to learn more about on the wall...
Vosh said that frames warp here. And finding more of the self leads to the All. There are more choices as we get closer to the ege about who we are.
And in the end, when he asked who would add themselves to the library, all of us agreed, none of us wishing to deny him anything, though I know I don't want to look at other iterations already stored here.
